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Michael's avatar

I am LCMS. At first I couldn’t quite tell if you were defending the practice, or attacking it lol. This was very well put together! I spent a lot of time deciding between the LCMS & WELS, I wish they were in fellowship. The ELCA has gone down a very concerning road… look what has happened to them in just a matter of 20 ish years. I think if us keeping it closed is the defense of falling apart as they (and the Methodist church unfortunately did as well…) did… I’m absolutely fine with it.

My only issue is that I wish we could come together more with the WELS. We Lutherans are maybe the most well known denomination due to history… but we don’t seem to be a growing church as much as I wish we could… so it does have its drawbacks.

Also, the issue of not knowing if someone is allowed communion… my church (Lutheran Church of the Atonement - Seattle,Wa) has a very simple solution that we practice—new or first time visitors are encouraged to speak with the pastor before service, it’s stated often. It seems to work pretty well.

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Paul's avatar

"Like it or not, a pastor's discretion in supervising the rail is necessarily heavily tilted toward the negative-he must be more alert to exclusionary rather than inclusionary factors." Sounds like something Jesus would model. "Historically, the church dismissed non-members before the second half of the service." Show me where it mentions members in any ancient text? It does not, it does mention baptism as a requirement, baptism is our membership, not our allegiance to a denomination. Everything seems to hinge on being a "member," then, and only then, do we know 100 percent that you're with us. Regrettably, the Eucharist remains a source of quarrels and divisions, a tool for manipulation, and an excuse to exclude.

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