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MaryAnn's avatar

Excellent. Thank you for sharing.

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Von's avatar

I’ve run in non denominational circles for some time and realized that though many of them speak out against the prosperity gospel, there have been practices from this movement that have leavened the loaf.

They may not name and claim as their orthodoxy, but there is a performative theology they have that end up making them prosperity like.

I was an elder in a church plant that was having challenges in compromising with charismatics and seeker sensitives looking for a new church home after the pandemic. Once it gets in it stays.

I’ve been so blessed as I have transitions to my local LCMS, but like yourself, it is bittersweet, as those we love have been seduced by this movement. My wife is still figuring out my journey since she was brought up in a Wesleyan Nazarene tradition, which has also been infested with seeker sensitive charismatic psycho babble

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Ink's avatar

Huh, so it turns out Trump isn't sent by God to teach us and lead us into all righteousness? This woman has been circling Trump the entire MAGA era, not just since yesterday...

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

Please provide the source quote by the Christian leader who said Trump was "sent by God to teach us and lead us into all righteousness." Many thanks.

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Ink's avatar
Feb 8Edited

Common sentiment on Twitter, though none I've found so explicitly from "Christian leaders" precisely. There was one tweet that was saying that near verbatim, though that history is on another computer I believe, so it'd be hard to find it right now. The tweeter in question was not a schizo Q-type, just a very excited fan, responding to some headline tweet.

Here is one after a quick fresh search: https://x.com/PatriotXV11/status/1887917114012361187

However, this account is highly Qish (check out that banner pic!), so it's fair to dismiss the sentiment.

Two more:

"lead us teach us truth to power"

https://x.com/Gardenlover90/status/1882289098561405353

"God sends heros to reveal, expose, lead, correct and teach us." Very similar to the 5-fold use of preaching.

https://x.com/Nene9956/status/1879540003203879392

And the source tweeter was replying to: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/01/the_necessity_of_heroes.html

"Not to make a direct comparison, but America is in a similar situation -- do we want to be saved? This election sure makes it look like we do, but are we willing to follow Donald Trump into the swamp to clean up the mess the Left has made of our once great nation?"

Do we want to be saved? Are we willing to let Trump save us? Ergo, anyone not on the Trump Train doesn't want to be saved and is spiritually suspect.

Granted, I have no idea if anyone reads "The American Thinker". Hadn't heard of it before just now.

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

As you point out, nobody outside a micro fringe has come close to saying Trump is Lord and Savior.

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Ink's avatar

Thought this one was cute: https://x.com/YairNetanyahu/status/1886972616918827332

And to bring it back to the matter at hand: “To say no to Trump is to say no to God”

https://x.com/navigatinglies/status/1888015556738969958

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