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This is one of the reasons that I, as a pastor, do not participate myself in youth events/retreats/conferences. I ask parents to go as the chaperones and I stay home and write my sermon.

First, because we live in a society that is eager to accuse clergy.

Second, because pastors should not do anything that could open the door for accusation (not that this is completely avoidable, but everything he can do he should).

Third, because pastors don't have to be involved with every activity to which the youth attend.

If I must go, I will get my own hotel room and likely in a different hotel (I have a dog that comes with me).

These days pastors have to be extra careful to protect themselves. A person could get upset at a pastor for no good reason and turn around and accuse the pastor of something horrible out of spite.

I have a camera in my office/study for when I'm doing counseling, so should anyone accuse me of anything, I can have a defense. The camera is right there where anyone can see it and I tell them that I record, especially if it's a female. We never want to show impropriety.

However this situation turns out, prayers for the district and the LCMS, for Mohr's family and for the families of the alleged victims. Pastors, do your due diligence! Make sure no one can accuse you of anything. Be above reproach; be mindful of where you put your hands and what your eyes see. I won't go so far as to say don't play video games, but be mindful of the type of games you play, that they aren't tempting you to do horrible things. If you're married, stay close to your wife. Be sure you have a Father Confessor with whom you can confess your sins and struggles. If you are single as I am, suffer all the more that you do not frequent the bars or clubs, but spend your "me time" praying the Catechism or reading the Psalms rather than hitting Facebook or worse.

Remember your baptism! Focus your time on sermon prep, bible study prep, visiting your shut-ins and the sick, and keeping yourself occupied. Put the freakin' cellphone down -- lose it like I do for a day every once in a while.

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Upon reading this news, I have numerous thoughts, but for whatever it’s worth here are some of them:

(1) To be certain of the truth in this case, the public will have to wait until all the evidence from both sides is presented, but, considering the allegations, even though we don’t have all the evidence yet, it is reasonable and important to immediately take the precautions of suspending the charged clergyman from the positions or roles he has occupied, as suggested by Ad Crucem, until the involved parties have had the opportunity to officially present the evidence they have.

(2) Depending on whether the allegations against Mohr are true, if they are true, my sympathies are with any people he abused, and/or misled, if they are untrue, my sympathies are with Mohr.

(3) What has been a revealing, and in my opinion, embarrassing spectacle, is much of the public expressions on other social media sites, which leave the impression that LCMS officials, and commenters who appear to exhibit an attitude of blind faith in their beloved leaders, care more about how an incident like this case makes LCMS officials look, or about the corporate reputation, than about much worse harms inflicted. Official comments and press releases from the LCMS have communicated impassioned explanations which distance corporate LCMS and its officials from any responsibility for preventing Mohr’s alleged misconduct. LCMS authorities made a point of explaining they intend to fully cooperate with the civil authorities, which, of course, is what anyone would expect them to do, and everyone knows to do otherwise would be an indefensible public scandal. That distracts from the real question which is whether LCMS authorities supervising Mohr have a responsibility to prevent the alleged abuse? It is a good question, and one that should not be ignored if evidence shows the allegations to be true.

So many commenters on these other sites, in response to LCMS official press releases, have expressed their deep concern that this all must be so very difficult for the LCMS officials having to deal with this matter. Commenters offer their heartfelt sympathies and support… primarily for LCMS officials because they might have to endure some discomfort in dealing with this problem. I have good reason to believe there is a silent majority of LCMS churchgoers, and Christians in general, who are not easily fooled or manipulated by words in press releases. I have reason to believe a large number of Christians have a very similar reaction to the press releases as I have had. I doubt it is unusual for Christians observing the press releases and comments on them to roll their eyes, silently saying to themselves some version of, “Are you kidding me, so the big concern is that this incident is causing LCMS ecclesiastical supervisors some discomfort?” Christians who have suffered from church worker misconduct, especially where church officials have refused to hold church worker perpetrators accountable, recognize infuriating hypocrisy, but usually continue to suffer in silence. Based on my own long-term observation and experience in LCMS church communities both on the West Coast, and in the Midwest, I believe their instincts are correct to feel that way. I thank our Lord for our civil authorities who often seem to be the only authorities left with the strength to enforce God’s good laws that are in place to protect vulnerable sheep against harm by church worker misconduct of a serious nature that profoundly continues to erode faith and trust.

A commenter on the recently documented case of mistreatment of congregants of the Pastor who publicly modeled a transgender affirming stole, explained the numbers of people profoundly hurt by church worker misconduct are likely to be considerably higher than what is reported statistically because most people, especially in the church, will suffer even severe trauma in silence, and will be successfully silenced, or driven out of a church community, while the misconduct is swept under the rug, and not recorded as part of any statistical record. I’ve witnessed that happen repeatedly, and I am not referring to simply behavior directly against me. I have witnessed incidents involving at least a dozen individuals I can count off the top of my head, across the spectrum geographically, in different LCMS churches or other LCMS institutions, plus the entire core of a congregation, all faithful confessional Lutherans, including even a brother of a very high-ranking LCMS official, driven out of their home congregation by the insidious deceit of a pastor who talks a good game of identifying as a “confessional,” who to this day, still holds his job and has not been held accountable by any LCMS authorities. In that case, when formal complaints were made, LCMS authorities decided not to even hear the testimonies of the laypeople involved. (This was NOT a Pacific Southwest District congregation.)

Those who suggest there are more people suffering from church worker misconduct than what is statistically reported have correctly assessed the reality, in my opinion. If God‘s patience with that reality, and its concealment is running thin, I am grateful for His judgment as maybe the only means of help for all the voiceless in the LCMS who have suffered intensely, and privately from church worker misconduct. It seems to require civil authorities to step in to enforce God‘s laws that are in place to protect God’s sheep against church-worker misconduct. That is a shame, but God‘s work in protecting His sheep is not a shame, it is a long-awaited blessing and vindication where those placed in offices within the church charged with protecting sheep from church worker misconduct, neglect or refuse to do it.

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