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Robbie Rojas's avatar

Excellent questions! I hope at least one liberal Lutheran answers these. I’m very interested to see how they view these sort of things.

Also, how did Kloha and the others handle the following church service?

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Melody's avatar

I’m interested to know how they handled that service, as well!

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

Hi Pastor Rojas, here's the link to the streamed service from the First Sunday of Advent: https://www.facebook.com/OurSaviorChurchVA/videos

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Rev. Joshua DeYoung's avatar

Also a nice audible fractio panis during Kloha's verba. A man who served as a seminary professor for years should know better.

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Keepers of the Tree's avatar

Hope to see a response to this although I doubt it will occur.

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Nathan R.'s avatar

Perhaps this would be an excellent time for David Behnke to offer some insight, particularly using the "Lutheran resolution template" he mentioned when responding to my post the other day at AC. If any who know the former president see this, let him know.

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Sue Steinau's avatar

Ah!! Kloha. Say no more…😔

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Jason's avatar

It will be instructive to see if some "Conservative" gatekeepers chime in to tell us how this request causes hurt feelings.

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

Indeed. I’m sure we are going to hear about squeaky wheels being horribly disruptive to a glacial pace of resolution.

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Carl Berner's avatar

This is what happens when antinomian preaching and teaching is tolerated by a congregation.

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Rev. Dr. David H. Benke's avatar

I'm with those waiting for a Missouri Synod liberal to accept the editor's challenge. In the meantime, daily baptismal repentance and renewal will have to do. May a heaping plate of Advent II metanoia be on the plate of all readers who are headed ad crucem.

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

Maybe Staneck will take up the cause? He has firm opinions on the “kerfuffle”.

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Rev. Dr. David H. Benke's avatar

Why would anyone "take up the cause?" The article is a set-up right from the title forward. And it's cloaked, i.e. obviously not written by Tim Wood. "Come one, come all ye liberals as I understand the term liberal, take me on." Although I won't reveal who I am. Weak. And adolescent. WOT - waste of time. Blessed Advent II.

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

1. What is the set up?

2. You are bearing false witness. Only Tim wrote this.

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Rev. Dr. David H. Benke's avatar

Tim knows someone named Staneck? If so, pardon me.

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

He came to my attention by bloviating on our X feed this week. So I went to winsome guy’s feed, and lo and behold, he has strong opinions about the issue. Given those opinions and his rank, he is a perfect candidate to represent what he finds so heinous, as are you.

This is the third false accusation you have launched regarding this story.

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Amanda's avatar

How do you call yourself a Reverend?

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

I am going to make it simple: I will publish any defense of OSLCS and Harmon. I will publish any criticism of Ad Crucem News in this matter. You may frame it any way you like. The authors may even use pseudonyms.

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Gregory DeVore's avatar

Are these the same old liberals from the Seminex days? If so they quite elderly now. Or is there a new generation of young progressives eager to corrupt the faith once handed down to the saints.

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Ad Crucem News's avatar

It’s a combination of men who stayed on after receiving higher critical training, and youngsters soaked in a Barthian / Progressive fusion.

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