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We have so much work to do.

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Roland Sckerl's avatar

Thank you very much for your interesting words about Australia and the situation in the States. The situation in Germany is even worse, since the SELK in most parts is a more or less liberal church body, many rejecting the verbal inspiration, the creation in six days; most congregations practicing "ecumenical services" with the State Church, Roman Catholics, Baptists and others; women have the right to do all things, with the exception of being ordained and consecrating the Lord's Supper. There might be a split in the next years, but that would only be the separation of those who want women's ordination; the remaining part of the SELK will go forward in the way described above. And in most parts of the FRG, there is no refuge for confessional Lutherans, since the Evangelical Lutheran Free Church (in former times a sister church of the LCMS) is mainly in the Eastern parts of the FRG. I think the LCMS should act with the SELK in a lovingly, but very consequent way.

Concerning Australia, Sasse was a main manager of the unification - and he knew, as someone from Australia once mentionend at a closed meeting of the Leipzig Mission, that they had triggered the ELCA ("Wir haben sie über den Tisch gezogen"). There had been a long way to that unification, a very sad way. For more information let me point to the booklet of Gavin L. Winter: How are the mighty fallen? He is a pastor of the ELCR in Australia. The booklet might be on their website. (In the 1960s there was only one pastor, F.G. Kleinig, who refused the unification and then formed the ELCR, which, helas, had become somewhat legalistic (headcovering, women's dressing). Later others separated, like Vernon S. Grieger and his brother and Clarence Priebbenow and formed the AELC, which was splitted over discussion about the administration of the Lord's Supper in problematic situations (when there are small congregations without pastor and without sister congregations with pastors and cannot be served by pastors regularly).)

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