Fired from being a death metal guitarist? Is it common for death metal enjoyers to be afraid of the government and sickness in the media or something? Just a little confused, man. If you're convinced your LCMS church would excommunicate you for something but think they're wrong, it's possible they themselves have some grievous error they're not repenting of. Like, you're just letting them live in sin. So it's a little awkward to not want to talk about it openly...
So we agree. Not sure what "most of you" is implying, stated on this thread of all places. I'm glad you didn't take it, and it was indeed shameful that people were eager to see people's livelihoods destroyed who didn't partake. Sermons were preached at the seminaries that said it "serves them right" whomever died without taking the injections.
It is also critical to understand how many Lutheran families were torn apart when family members were lost to drugs and alcohol during the lock downs from a combination of despair and failure to get treatment and support.
The failure to treat, the failure of doctors and hospitals to treat anything other than Covid for months was criminal. Literally millions of people were unable to get cancer and heart screenings, resulting in who knows how many deaths. Our disabled daughter's children's hospital refusing to treat her for nearly a month, even though she was having breathing and oxygen difficulties, nearly resulted in her death. When they finally admitted her, she was there for 10 weeks and came home with a trach. This was seen by more than a few "Christians" as normal and we were ridiculed for daring to talk about it.
Thanks for sharing that, David. Truly horrifying and I cannot imagine the terror of losing a child because she is refused the help she needs and can be given just because the caregivers were too afraid of a minor virus and health bureaucrats.
You're absolutely on point that the refusal and failure to treat is another dimension of the scandal that we like to pretend does not need to be addressed. Allied to that is the threat to withhold treatment. We heard repeatedly from medical professionals and politicians that not having a COVID vax and seventy eleven boosters was grounds to leave you to die. It's unprecedented. We do not even withhold treatment from fentanyl overdose victims because they have poor impulse control and made bad life choices. In fact, we have entire industries devoted to helping them shoot up more drugs "cleanly" and to saving them when they overdose.
A former member of our congregation, very upset that the church continued to gather through COVID, told another member that she hoped everyone at Trinity would get COVID and be refused treatment. They live among us...
Yes they do, sadly. BTW, our daughter is doing well. She is severely mentally and physically disabled, and non verbal, but she just had her 13th birthday; and is a joy to be around. Gathering at church is one of her favorite things.
That is great to hear and God bless you richly for loving her so dearly when so many will see her as a burden. How wonderful that she has comfort at church and that you can have confidence that her baptism will do exactly what it promises, and that the Word is working even if she cannot articulate it.
I continue to assert that all the real devastation of life and living was due nearly entirely to the psychological attacks on the populace, and the physical changes induced by policy changes themselves, both ignorant and malicious.
It was words that killed us (messaging), and words backed with sword or (possibly empty) threat of sword (policy—medical, economic, political).
Novel and maliciously or recklessly engineered psychological states absolutely destroys a man's health. If "a virus killed many people," but words were not employed against the whole world and especially against Christ and his church, we would not be discussing issues of faithlessness or restitution. We would simply be here reflecting on a natural disaster like a hurricane sweeping through. Repentance demanded no less, but absent the heat and hurt of COVID.
Fired from being a death metal guitarist? Is it common for death metal enjoyers to be afraid of the government and sickness in the media or something? Just a little confused, man. If you're convinced your LCMS church would excommunicate you for something but think they're wrong, it's possible they themselves have some grievous error they're not repenting of. Like, you're just letting them live in sin. So it's a little awkward to not want to talk about it openly...
So we agree. Not sure what "most of you" is implying, stated on this thread of all places. I'm glad you didn't take it, and it was indeed shameful that people were eager to see people's livelihoods destroyed who didn't partake. Sermons were preached at the seminaries that said it "serves them right" whomever died without taking the injections.
Sermons were preached at the Seminary? Unreal!
It is also critical to understand how many Lutheran families were torn apart when family members were lost to drugs and alcohol during the lock downs from a combination of despair and failure to get treatment and support.
The failure to treat, the failure of doctors and hospitals to treat anything other than Covid for months was criminal. Literally millions of people were unable to get cancer and heart screenings, resulting in who knows how many deaths. Our disabled daughter's children's hospital refusing to treat her for nearly a month, even though she was having breathing and oxygen difficulties, nearly resulted in her death. When they finally admitted her, she was there for 10 weeks and came home with a trach. This was seen by more than a few "Christians" as normal and we were ridiculed for daring to talk about it.
Thanks for sharing that, David. Truly horrifying and I cannot imagine the terror of losing a child because she is refused the help she needs and can be given just because the caregivers were too afraid of a minor virus and health bureaucrats.
You're absolutely on point that the refusal and failure to treat is another dimension of the scandal that we like to pretend does not need to be addressed. Allied to that is the threat to withhold treatment. We heard repeatedly from medical professionals and politicians that not having a COVID vax and seventy eleven boosters was grounds to leave you to die. It's unprecedented. We do not even withhold treatment from fentanyl overdose victims because they have poor impulse control and made bad life choices. In fact, we have entire industries devoted to helping them shoot up more drugs "cleanly" and to saving them when they overdose.
A former member of our congregation, very upset that the church continued to gather through COVID, told another member that she hoped everyone at Trinity would get COVID and be refused treatment. They live among us...
Yes they do, sadly. BTW, our daughter is doing well. She is severely mentally and physically disabled, and non verbal, but she just had her 13th birthday; and is a joy to be around. Gathering at church is one of her favorite things.
That is great to hear and God bless you richly for loving her so dearly when so many will see her as a burden. How wonderful that she has comfort at church and that you can have confidence that her baptism will do exactly what it promises, and that the Word is working even if she cannot articulate it.
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I continue to assert that all the real devastation of life and living was due nearly entirely to the psychological attacks on the populace, and the physical changes induced by policy changes themselves, both ignorant and malicious.
It was words that killed us (messaging), and words backed with sword or (possibly empty) threat of sword (policy—medical, economic, political).
Novel and maliciously or recklessly engineered psychological states absolutely destroys a man's health. If "a virus killed many people," but words were not employed against the whole world and especially against Christ and his church, we would not be discussing issues of faithlessness or restitution. We would simply be here reflecting on a natural disaster like a hurricane sweeping through. Repentance demanded no less, but absent the heat and hurt of COVID.